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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:46 am
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The 90's had grunge, gangster rap, and boy bands/girl pop.
The 80's had New Wave and hair metal.
The 70's had punk and disco.
The 60's had folk and psychedelic rock.
The 50's had Elvis bring rock and roll to the mainstream.

But I haven't really detected a definitive musical genre or movement that has really taken hold of the consciousness of the public in general this decade. Or maybe I'm missing something. I've been pretty disillusioned with the offerings in the past 5 or 6 years. Rilo Kiley has been the only band that's really excited me in the 2000's. And, technically, they're from the 90's.
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the reason you can find "definitive" movements for other decades is because the media only talks about what they want to define things (read;some form of rock,preferably lot's of white people)

psychadelic rock is more important than hard bop? no fucking way
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We still have another 3 1/2 years. They'll come up with some way to define us.
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Mainstream is very into dirty rap and pop punk, it seems. Turn on the radio, and it'll be some rap song (or Rhianna/Beyonce type) or The All American Rejects, Fall Out Boy, Panic! at the Disco, and so on.
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the 00's will probably be defined by the downfall of the RIAA as a major force, not some genres that were premanent on the radio.

Power to the artist, not what the industry wants. file sharing and myspace and ipods.
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not that we need to be defined musically...but

i guess the turn of indie music into popular mainstream music.

the type of band to like these days is bands others dont know. you know for indie street cred
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This is the "iPod" era - it's all about the shuffle, baby. You buy single mp3s meaning there's much less commitment involved - enabling people to "check out" a lot more artists than they were previously able to. This goes with the "indie-as-mainstream" bit.
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catie wrote:
This is the "iPod" era - it's all about the shuffle, baby. You buy single mp3s meaning there's much less commitment involved - enabling people to "check out" a lot more artists than they were previously able to. This goes with the "indie-as-mainstream" bit.


true true, but i have never bought one song on itunes myself or bought one mp3 on any other site. That might just be me i dont know.

we should be known more as music pirates! plus it sounds a lot cooler
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not that we need to be defined musically...but

i guess the turn of indie music into popular mainstream music.

the type of band to like these days is bands others dont know. you know for indie street cred

what about the indie scene from the 80s and early 90s? Soul Asylum, The Replacements, Sonic Youth, Pavement, etc. Didn't they have a similiar outcoming at that time? This new indie, which I call "pitchfork indie" cause of pitchfork media, is just a new generation.
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00's= scensters and hip-hop.

i was going to find a picture of a really bad scenester but i dont want to offend anyone. lol i dont know how i would.
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00's= scensters and hip-hop.

i was going to find a picture of a really bad scenester but i dont want to offend anyone. lol i dont know how i would.


Scenster? That's a term I've never heard of before. Now I know I'm starting to get old......
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00's= scensters and hip-hop.

i was going to find a picture of a really bad scenester but i dont want to offend anyone. lol i dont know how i would.


Scenster? That's a term I've never heard of before. Now I know I'm starting to get old......


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=scenester
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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=scenester

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you know,music exists outside of north america...maybe it's an ipod era or whatever at your college but mp3s aren't common in alot of places,music is everywhere
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you know,music exists outside of north america...maybe it's an ipod era or whatever at your college but mp3s aren't common in alot of places,music is everywhere

Tonight I almost ordered an album by John Zorn. He has some "out there" stuff. Instead I opted for a book he compiled that had been out of print for awhile.
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tw2113 wrote:
This new indie, which I call "pitchfork indie" cause of pitchfork media, is just a new generation.


you give WAY to much credit to pitchfork. way to much.

badbrainsmashitup wrote:
you know,music exists outside of north america...maybe it's an ipod era or whatever at your college but mp3s aren't common in alot of places,music is everywhere


your right music does exist outside of north america, but it seems that for the most part whichever way the states listens, so goes the rest of the world.

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at least in the mainstream. there will always be pockets of people who listen to other stuff, but the mainstream feels like its dictated by the US.
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neverending wrote:
00's= scensters and hip-hop.


I think that's fairly accurate description to describe this decade so far.
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tw2113 wrote:
This new indie, which I call "pitchfork indie" cause of pitchfork media, is just a new generation.


you give WAY to much credit to pitchfork. way to much.

Not really, I just have little interest in most of the bands that Pitchfork promotes out the ass and praises as high holy gods.
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at least in the mainstream. there will always be pockets of people who listen to other stuff, but the mainstream feels like its dictated by the US.



in canada,australia england etc. yes, but i'm quite certain most people in serbia don't listen to indie rock,or turkey etc. not to mention south america and africa, as far as i know the only more modern things people like all over are rap and electronica.
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there was an interesting article in wired (the one right before the one with stephen colbert on the cover) about the decline of the (musical) hit which seemed to me like how this musical decade would be defined - a kind of returning music to the masses or something.
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tw2113 wrote:
This new indie, which I call "pitchfork indie" cause of pitchfork media, is just a new generation.


you give WAY to much credit to pitchfork. way to much.



ex pitchfork writer who will go unnamed gave juelz santana a bashing and 3 out of 10 or something like that.

pulled that album out a couple weeks later and now listens to juelz EVERY day for like a year
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techno!!or something futuristic like that..well or it will be the downfall of all of everyone sticking to one genre...i dont know..the year of the all kinds of music..or new music..whatever
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:53 pm
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I'd like to think that the 00s will be defined by the internet. iTunes sells millions of tracks. eMusic makes cheap online distribution of music on independent labels a reality and ecommerce lets anybody run their own cottage-industry label (like Karl Blau from Laura Veirs' band "The Tortured Souls" does with Kelp Monthly) and reaching your customer becomes infinitely easier.

With CD burners becoming standard in every new PC and blank CDs costing pennies, its also the decade where the compilation came back into fashion. The 80s saw a boom in home taping and the legendary C86 tape gave birth to so many great bands. Mix discs passed amongst friends has become the new taping. How many threads do we see on here about playlists or mix discs? Music has become more democratic - you can purchase single songs and make your own best of albums featuring a particular artist. Everything now is geared towards choice. It could ultimately be the death of the album track - that 3minutes of filler in between the 2 singles on an album that most people skip - but it could in turn push the overall quality of albums up as artists are forced to deliver albus without filler tracks.

And then there's MySpace. We've already seen The Arctic Monkeys and The Long Blondes in the UK build up a massive following online before even signing an album deal. Lilly Allen claims that her popularity was built on a loyal myspace friends list numbering thousands. The Internet allows a level of interation with the musician that fans havent had since the days of the fanclub of manufactured bands. People can keep in touch with their favourite acts on an almost daily basis - email, blogs and podcasts all serve to make communication between musician and audience that much easier - and artists can find it easier to react to the demands of their fans.

Ultimately the 00s is a decade where the individual music fan has regained some degree of power from the establishment. Record companies are no longer relied upon for information. Radio stations and MTV are no longer the only sources of new music. It's just as easy to pick up Sean Hayes' debut album at his online store as it is to go to Virgin or HMV to buy the latest release on one of the major labels. We've seen the Payola scandal hit American radio and ultimately stations like KCRW have thrived because they offer a truly independent and unbiased view on music. If they like a song they'll play it. If they dont, they wont. No amount of record industry money will influence them. Fans can blog or post on internet forums and artists can deliver the music they make directly to the people who want it without many of the cynical middlemen out to make a quick buck form the next big thing before dumping them back into obscurity.

The 00s might not be remembered for any legendary albums the way that every decade before has been. What it will be remembered for is finally bringing the music back into the hands of the people who love it.
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when i think 90's i think grunge, nirvana ect
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